Comments on: Four Reasons Your Action-Based Scene is Failing (And How to Avoid It) https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/ Helping writers become bestselling authors Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:56:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Marissa Graff https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762956 Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:56:49 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762956 In reply to Kyrie Wang.

Kyrie, oh this sounds dreadful and completely skim-worthy! It’s awful when that sort of scene is the ending, after all the time we’ve put into something. If you’ve never read Maggie Stiefvater’s THE SCORPIO RACES, I can’t think of a more fitting book to redeem the one you didn’t care for. Stiefvater brilliantly pits two protagonists (who are also love interests) against one another, and though they both want/need to win the race, only one can. She imbues them with massively heartfelt motivations, and so as the reader, you’re torn completely down the middle wanting both to win. Since you know only one can achieve victory, the need to see that race through, moment by moment, is perhaps my favorite example of how a strong action scene should look. Thank you for adding to this topic!

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By: Marissa Graff https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762955 Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:51:41 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762955 In reply to Kate Darroch.

Hi Kate, haha, yes! I always like to ask my clients, what’s on the other side of that chase? Why does the character need to get away? It’s one thing if the character is being pursued by an angry driver over getting cut off. It’s an entirely different thing if your character is trying to deliver the last vial in town of a life-saving drug and someone else is chasing them because they want it, too! So glad you stopped by!

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By: Marissa Graff https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762954 Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:48:51 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762954 In reply to Karen Dimmick.

Hi Karen,
Isn’t it hard to really nail down when we’re reading or watching something? But we do somehow just know–for the most part–that the character isn’t going to die. The other thing is that mentally, I think it’s very hard for us to grasp the character dying as stakes because it’s both nebulous and if they die, they’re not there to lose anything, if that makes sense? Thanks so much for adding to the discussion!

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By: Kyrie Wang https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762940 Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:25:41 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762940 Last year I was reading a book with a very long action-suspense sequence as the ending. It was vividly described but boring for the reasons you have given.

It was a romance so I knew both female and male leads must win/live. They were already married with a child at that point, and the child was safety send away, so zero tension on the romance/homefront. Other than their physical safety, little was at stake in that loooooooong battle.

I skimmed the ending despite the fantastic firsy half to that novel. Oh well.

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By: Karen Dimmick https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762936 Sun, 26 Feb 2023 18:41:42 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762936 Genius – I’d never thought of “life and death” stakes in an action as something that would cause a reader to skim because they know the main character isn’t going to be killed off. Totally makes sense though – I know I’ve skimmed as a reader when that happens because it felt like hyped drama almost – I’d just never thought about why it felt like that.

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By: Kate Darroch https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762935 Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:19:41 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762935 Reminds me of why I hate car chases! of which there are none in my books 🙂

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By: Marissa Graff https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762911 Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:37:53 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762911 In reply to Brenda Nichols.

Brenda, you make terrific points! I’m with you–my poor husband knows I won’t be persuaded to sit down to watch one of those types of movies because I just can’t understand why those types of scenes are so alluring. One of my favorite exceptions have been some very intense Game of Thrones episodes–one of which was an entire hour of battle (Battle of the Bastards is the episode title). Despite an entire hour of intense fighting, I was glued to my seat needing to know the turnout because many, many internal stakes had been established prior to the battle. The writers did a fantastic job making us root for the victory of one character just as much as we needed to see the nasty antagonist of the episode go down, making it especially amazing. And yes, making us care is truly what it’s all about! Thank you for chiming in!

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By: Marissa Graff https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762910 Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:33:36 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762910 In reply to ANGELA ACKERMAN.

Thank you, Angela! It’s so true. I tend to get very bored with high-action movies because they can oftentimes lose sight of character and meaningful stakes. One exception I always come back to are the Jason Bourne movies, and I have enjoyed pondering why those worked for me. It always goes back to character and that *thing* they actually need beyond the battle. A huge thank you for having me on!

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By: Marissa Graff https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762909 Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:30:56 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762909 In reply to V.M. Sang.

Thank you for the kind words, V.M.! I find I always need to cycle through writing advice to stay on top of it all. We hear so many tips, and it can be hard to keep them all in the forefronts of our minds as we try to let the muse create. Thank you again!

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By: V.M. Sang https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762907 Fri, 24 Feb 2023 21:09:49 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762907 A succinct and helpful post. Reminding us of these things is helpful. Especially to stick with the character and important actions.

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By: ANGELA ACKERMAN https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762901 Fri, 24 Feb 2023 15:26:41 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762901 Love how you so succinctly reminded us that action scenes–all scenes–are about the character. This is an easy thing to forget, especially when there’s high action going on. A story can build to an important moment (a battle, an escape, etc.) but it’s STILL about the character and the impact of being in that situation, and the mental game of navigating the challenge in front of them. Great post, Marissa 🙂

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By: Brenda Nichols https://writershelpingwriters.net/2023/02/four-reasons-your-action-based-scene-is-failing-and-how-to-avoid-it/#comment-762888 Fri, 24 Feb 2023 00:20:06 +0000 https://writershelpingwriters.net/?p=49905#comment-762888 Words of wisdom to be sure. I even fast forward through most chase and fight scenes in movies or a TV series because they are all the same. I’d rather know what caused the action or the aftermath than the tedium of the action itself. Reading is very much the same. Some dialogue or internal thoughts can break up the round after round of screeching tires, blazing guns, or he punched, he ducked and changed his form from jujitsu to Kung Fu, Shang Hai karate, or whatever.

As for beginning hooks, I sometimes think we get too hung up on them but it’s also expected these days. It’s nice to get to know the character, care about them, before we see them hanging by their fingernails over a lava lake.

Thanks for the reminder.

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